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Which Diesel?
200 TDI
35%
 35%  [ 7 ]
2.5 NA
45%
 45%  [ 9 ]
2.5 Turbo
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
2.25 original
20%
 20%  [ 4 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Replacement engines - again! Reply with quote
Okay folkes, lets have your views to help me make a decision. The 2.25 in our 88 has gone a knacker, dont know what and me and Beasty's fed up with engine swaps, so we're going to replace rather than repair, its an ancient 3 bearing anyway.

I wanted to keep KTL as original as possible, so the 200TDI option is only there really to see what people think, cos this option means i have to make big alterations that i dont want to do. It also means 5 speed box and no overdrive - which Holly went to a lot of trouble with, so she won't be pleased Rolling Eyes

Do please leave a note as to what you chose and why, i am geniuinly interested in what people think of these engines before i put one in!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
oh its BIG problems with that engine theres not enough oil in the world to keep that running long

i recon i could sell that enine to the rolay navy to make smoke screens in the battel feild
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you have a nice original 88, why on earth would you want to make it into anything else?

Once chopped and poked around, you might as well add other stuff and customise it!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
your right there thats somthing i tryed to do with all the mechanicals on mine so i can get all the parts from one place a LANDY PLACE
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've gone for the 2.5N/A.

Reason:-

You can rig it to look the same as the 2.25 5 bearing engine. It would look original but with a little extra power.

Best of both worlds.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
David : very good point. I am planning a 109 SW project which will be kitted out for comfort. The 88 i want to keep as original as possible to look at, but with a few things underneath that make things easier for me, like an overdrive to imrpove fuel economy, and an electric winch to aid with greenlaning (fitted to a custom bumper which will nearly hide it).

John : to me the 2.5 and the 2.25 look almost identical anyway. While we're on the subject anyway, how do you identify these engines if you dont know exactly what you are looking at? If you show me a 3brg and a 5brg 2.25 i can tell the difference, but thats about it really Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not a stickler for authenticity, more praticality for everyday use. If it's to be a Land Rover engine then the 2.5 or 2.5t. If you don't want the winch visible, fit in the back and rig up to winch for or aft. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've gone for the 2.5 as I believe it mates up with your gearbox.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nige P wrote:
I've gone for the 2.5 as I believe it mates up with your gearbox.

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It does, which makes it a better proposition than the TDI, which requires modifications to the bulkhead and floor. on the project maybe, but not on this one
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The block is virtually identical to a 5 bearing 2.25. Even if you get a bare engine, it will usually have a different flywheel housing (to suit the later LT77 gearbox). Also the flywheel is different. To convert it you need to change the flywheel and the housing. There are other differences, such as the waterpump pully and the head ancilliaries. The water pump housing and thermostat housing are also different. It will also have a different rocker cover and breather assembly fitted.

The main thing which is different is the start of the engine number which should start 12J. heck his carefully because there was also a very few 10J engines used on the 110 (2.25litre diesel run off from Series III production).

Hope this helps.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's really as simple as this!

The 2.5 and the 2.25 units are almost identicle.....almost identicle.....most won't be able to tell them apart but some will ok?

The water pumps on the 2.5 are moulded alloy where as on the 2.25 it's made of steel....one of the quickest ways to check the difference in the Classic Motoring world is to use a magnet! It's fool proof so....unless you don't care about originality, stick with the correct engine...QED
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
doesnt the 2.5 have a t/belt??
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yes
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Honestly, the list of differences goes on and on and on!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
what you mean we're brothers nuts at birth and we got the paper that says so
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