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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:57 am    Post subject: Seat Belt Anchorage Reply with quote
Hi - some advice needed please about anchoring the seat belt on my 1982 88" Series 3. I have taken the roof off, at least for the summer. Nothing remains above the "waist" except the windscreen. Therefore I need to find a new top anchorage for the seat belts. Are there legal stipulations for this? It seems to me that the two practical options are either to bolt it to the bulkhead behind me or to the inner reinforcement that runs along the new "top" of the vehicle. Does anyone else go roofless? What do canvas-toppers do about seat belts?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bolt it to the bulkhead behind the seats.Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks. I thought that the best place.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The raised seat belt bar is what I've got - but it took me a long while to find one.
See
http://www.eviljames.com/LandRover/?p=115

I had my belts bolted to the bulkhead before this which worked fine, but puts downward pressure on your shoulder/spine (not ideal) if the worst happens.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but couldn't you just fit lap belts when the hard top is off??
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Dave, that was an interesting article. Food for thought. Yule - are lap belts legal in a 1982 vehicle? I would assume not, but I don't know. Not as safe, of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just checked and they do have to be 3 point belts - pity as I thought they were a good idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had full harnesses in mine when I got it and fitted 3 point belts using the bulkhead behind the seats. Middle seat is a lap belt and was like this when I got it. I have had no problem with MOT's.

Mines a '79, not sure how legal that middle seat is even though it passes MOT's. Worst is I can carry four in the back with no belts at all!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Is that legally sound? Carrying people in the back? I've always assumed so because rear belts being compulsory is fairly new I think, but I admit I don't truly know.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is a kit that bolts to the bulkhead to hold the inertia reel and the shoulder strap of the seat belt throws direct over the shoulder from a second static, moulded anchorage fitted on the top of the bulkhead.

No, biomechanically, in a crash, they are probably not a good as the 3 point high set shoulder strap versions or the ones with the seat belt bar.

Yes, they are legal and were for fitment to series 2 and 3 vehicles.

On some series 2 truck cab vehicles they were fitted back to front. That is with the shoulder strap going over the driver or passenger's inner shoulder; I dont know why.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Adie wrote:
I had full harnesses in mine when I got it and fitted 3 point belts using the bulkhead behind the seats. Middle seat is a lap belt and was like this when I got it. I have had no problem with MOT's.

Mines a '79, not sure how legal that middle seat is even though it passes MOT's. Worst is I can carry four in the back with no belts at all!!


I also have 4 individual seats in the rear with no belts - and that still gets through the MOT.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok, thanks for your input chaps. Helpful and interesting. I've bolted to the bulkhead and it seems good enough to me.
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