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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:01 pm    Post subject: Series 3 front stub axle 1980 onwards Reply with quote
Hi I need to replace my front stub axle. As my landy was built post oct 1980 a new one costs best part of 300 is it possible to use pre 1980 parts to keep the cost down
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think you would have to fit earlier hubs as well because from memory the later axles have 24 splines instead of the 10 of the earlier ones.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Alan.I'm beginning to think it might be cheaper looking for an early front axle and giving it a referb and fitting that!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Drive-shaft-Front-Outer-ORIGINAL-Land-Rover-88-109-Set-80-AEU1827-Sivar-/222995602258?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evening gdkelly1964.
The rationalization of axle types started from VIN 104839 for 88's and 105237 for 109's. From July 1980 the 88's used the 109 front axle which has twin leading shoe brakes.
The front axle number is stamped into the front left hand side next to the breather.
Is yours an 88 or 109?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
He said it was built post October 1980, so what difference does it make whether it's an 88 or a 109?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Curiosity.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah. Incidentally, these are cheap - the equivalent part for the Stage 1 (with CV joints) - AEU1828 - are around a grand now. I got Famous Four's last one for about 150 5 years ago when I needed one and another, complete with the half shaft, from Craddocks 3 years ago for just under half what the CVs alone are now, and which I have as a spare. Hoping that will last me. I know a Stage 1 owner who machined a cheap 110 CV joint to fit, but that kind of thing is beyond me and I am trying to keep my trucks as original as possible. I would just cough up for the Genuine part as originally fitted - I think whatever kind of replacement parts you fit will be reflected in the value of your vehicle in the long run.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
...and knowing which Land Rover will help with future queries.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Geoff2 for the info but i'm beginning to think your right and maybe I should put my hand in my pocket and pay for the original part
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
From my past experience with cheap and nasty pattern parts you'll find it cheaper in the long run, especially if you intend keeping the Land Rover for some time.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Like AEU1828 for the Stage 1, I couldn't even find any pattern equivalents for AEU1827, unlike for the earlier stub axles. Don't know why that is, unless they are only now beginning to wear out in significant numbers or the Genuine have only recently become so expensive. I wouldn't fit a pattern part for something like this anyway if I could avoid it. The link I posted above was the cheapest I could find, including the postage from Italy, and appears to be a Genuine Part. Maybe you can find one at a comparable price or nearer if you want to collect it. (Dunsfold also have 6 according to their online Stock Room but you'd have to phone for their price - I doubt it would be cheaper)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unfortunately Goeff2 the link you gave me was for a half shaft not a stub axle but thanks anyway
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
? With respect, no it's not. It's for AEU1827. The half shafts are handed and for your vehicle are part numbers 276719 and 276720. Look at the parts book.

http://www.landroverweb.com/landrover/pdf-land-rover-manuals/

(It's page 1J-05 [first page] of the Series 3 Parts Book)
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