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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:11 am    Post subject: What would you do? Reply with quote
This is a query we have had
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I fell in love with a Defender 110 2 years ago - Called her Vera after Ann Cleevesís Northumberland detective of the same name - who also drives around the beautiful Northumberland and Newcastle area in her father's old Land Rover.
she is a Land Rover Defender 110 County SWTD 1984 2495cc with 126,000 miles

I am not a mechanic, in fact that's an understatement. I have a local garage who helps me maintain the vehicle but after the last MOT he said that really I need to start thinking about spending some serious money restoring her or replace her with one that has been already done.

As you also may have guessed from my introduction I am based near Newcastle upon Tyne.

I can't be the only Defender owner who has had or having this dilemma? I have probably spent over £2,000 in 2 years in keeping it on the road and its the bodywork that while passed the MOT a few months ago is showing signs that it will soon need attention on the bulkhead, doors and various other areas.


My questions to fellow members are: is it better to keep and continue to invest in the same vehicle and go for a full restoration, or look for one that has been done? My other question is does anyone have any recommendations for companies local to the North East of England who can do restorations of Land Rovers?
I use the Landy at weekends, sometimes tow a caravan with it but dont use it on a daily basis. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated!


Many thanks



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello Mark

If it was me, I would stick with it.

You say that you love this 110. I have a 110 which I love and I would say that it has become similar to owning my dog, Spice. If he is ill, I will pay whatever the vet asks so that he will be fit again. I wouldn't dream of scrapping him at the first sign of stiffening joints.

Yes, a new bulkhead does not come cheap, but once replaced (properly) it will last you years. Doors and other items can often be hunted down via the internet and aren't necessarily really expensive. It's often a bit of welding which needs doing around the hinges.

I'm afraid that I live at the other end of the country and can't recommend anyone in your area, but if you did want to move to the Isle of Wight, I can thoroughly recommend Lee at Island 4x4 - an absolute expert on full rebuilds and really keenly priced.

A Landy's for life; not just for Christmas.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mark, I agree with Geoff. In 1997 I was faced with a dilemma whether to replace the rear cross member or go for a new galvanized chassis. I chose the latter and the chassis is in as good a condition as it was when fitted. I have spent a fortune on my Land Rover and it's been worth it in my opinion so go for it. I've got a 2.5 petrol engine in my Land Rover and it's a very good engine.
Keep us informed with your progress.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I fully understand your dilemma. I have a 30 year old 2.5 petrol 110 station wagon with an original chassis that has never been welded. I have maintained her myself for over 16 years and I think I know every last nut and bolt by now. Luckily, I guess, I have the ability and the tools to carry out the necessary repairs and maintenance.
There are a lot of things you can do yourself with some guidance. There is plenty of knowledge and experience on this forum and within the club - Just ask.
These vehicles are fairly straightforward to work on, unlike modern cars. You can save a lot of money by just getting major jobs done and then doing the rest yourself. Just ask here for unbiased advice. The more you do, the more you will learn. Also, there is much enjoyment and fulfilment to had by getting involved with looking after your classic vehicle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
At 1984, that'll be a fairly early 110 and well worth the effort of keeping. You'll spend the money now and enjoy the reward of years of happy Land Rovering in the future. Do the right thing and buckle in for the ride Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Iíd go with the advice to keep your 110 and spend the money needed on doing the work. The mileage is low for itís age and you know it already. Defenders and series land rovers are only increasing in value and spending money on an early 110 would be an investment in it. If you sold the 110, youíd only regret it.

Unfortunately I canít recommend anyone in the Newcastle area, however some google research should throw up some companies nearby who can do the work. There is bound to be a good local independent LR specialist nearby.

Let us know how you get on.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Mark with regard to companies who could do the work for you here are a couple you could try.
Washington Land Rovers
Philadelphia Complex
Philadelphia
Houghton-le-Spring
Sunderland
DH4 4UG
Tel:-07880853493

North East 4x4
Ross rd
Stockton on tees
TS18 2NH
Tel:-01642 602404
Hope these help
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would again as others have said stick with what you have, I believe you will regret it later if you sell it. As said early 110's are becoming quite sought after.

I appreciate you are not a 'mechanic' or anywhere near as you have said, however as Big John has said, they are not difficult to work on, only a basic understanding is required to complete many tasks with limited tools. Much of it is fairly obvious as you get into it.

By doing as much of the work yourself and striving to do more in the future not only goes a long way to making Land Rover ownership a lot more fulfilling but extremely cost effective too!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evening Mark.
A good investment would be a proper workshop manual. A manufacturer's one is best. They're not difficult to understand and a hard copy is much better than on line.A spare parts list is invaluable too as it shows how parts fit together.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Keep the one you have got, better the devil you know etc.
Landys are simple to work on (if heavy).
Start on the simple jobs and you'll soon be an expert.
As has been said, almost every problem ever, has been sorted by the boys and girls on here. We are all on your side.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm not a mechanic either Mark - far from it, but there is little that I won't have a go at. I wouldn't dream of doing it on any modern motor, but Henry is so basic you can work out how most things work with a little help from the manuals - buy new and get both LR & Haynes and they will pay you back quickly - I find mine invaluable now. There is a wealth of information and help on these pages as others have said and no question goes unanswered for long.
You will take more from doing things yourself than paying someone else to do it, and your Landy will get under your skin for sure - then you'll be just like the rest of us Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Better the devil you know.

Keep what you have and see it through, it helps with the knowledge of knowing whatís been done, as opposed to buying something you donít. Iíve friends whoíve bought shiny classics only to find mechanical basket cases.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Slow Progress wrote:
Better the devil you know.

Keep what you have and see it through, it helps with the knowledge of knowing whatís been done, as opposed to buying something you donít. Iíve friends whoíve bought shiny classics only to find mechanical basket cases.


Totally. My dad bought an MG BGT some years ago which had so say, been rebuilt. After a few years and several MOTís needing welding, my dad had to pay several thousand quid to get a decent rebuild done. Despite it being a nice shiny looking car.

Iíd stick with your Landy and get the work done on it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Iíve friends whoíve bought shiny classics only to find mechanical basket cases


Yup, plenty of those. No one would describe my trucks as shiny, but they go. Not for sale though.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chrome don't get you home!

But then again, neither does an Uber, that usually ends up on its roof, pointing the wrong way down a one way street.

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