Clutch assembly from a Series 3 or 2/2A
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Clutch assembly from a Series 3 or 2/2A Reply with quote
Hello all!

I've removed the engine so I can access the clutch assembly.

I can't quite work out if this is a series 3 or 2? I've got a 1972 Series 3 which has a Series 2a clutch release mechanism, not to sure if the clutch assembly has followed this or its actually a series 3 part?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evening AJT4.
It's a diaphragm clutch so it's Series 3.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks again Alan Dover and good job it is from a series 3 as I'm hoping tomorrow to fit the clutch assembly tomorrow.

I have no idea why I've got a series 2a clutch release mechanism and next on the list to fix.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Morning AJT4.
Had a look in James Taylor's book on the Series 3 and he states that the very last few Series 2A's were fitted with the diaphragm clutch. As yours is an early Series 3 I reckon that Land Rover were using up existing stocks of 2A release mechanism.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alan Drover wrote:
Morning AJT4.
Had a look in James Taylor's book on the Series 3 and he states that the very last few Series 2A's were fitted with the diaphragm clutch. As yours is an early Series 3 I reckon that Land Rover were using up existing stocks of 2A release mechanism.
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I think this could be the case or someone has done a nasty bodge using a part from a 2A. I've also got the pushrod setup up similar to the 2A which somone has extended by welding the top of the rod.

I'm in two minds whether to fit a new series 3 bell housing and fit a series 3 setup or just continue with the old using the new Clutch assembly... I'm also not sure how well the clutch release mechanism works from the 2a.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Afternoon AJT4
The gearbox number is stamped on the right hand side of the selector casing towards the rear. It will start with 901 and have a suffix letter A if it's the original but it's quite likely to have been changed. Let us know what it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Afternoon,
It is 90135482A, just taken the clutch assembly off and reckon it's the original because the damper springs are still the original green.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Afternoon AJT4.
That's the correct gearbox and possibly the original.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not sure if the heritage check from British Motor museum would have the details?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You have chassis, engine and gearbox numbers all starting 901 and ending A ?! No wonder you're confused! Mine are nothing like that Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Evening AJT4.
The full Heritage Certificate will give the original chassis number and engine number as it left the factory but I don't think it will give the gearbox number.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very Happy Not sure if you having me on there Geoff! To make matters more confusing my current engine number is 90119006A but the first V5 shows it as 90119008A or 90119068A I can't quite work out if its a 6 or a 0 on the 1972 V5.

Thanks Alan Drover its not cheap the request, I'd like a little more info for that price may do it to solve the engine number. I'll try and contact the DVLA to clarify first and see how far I get with them.

Back to the clutch, I'll try and fix up the series 2 release mechanism and see how far I get. Unfortunately it prior to the engine coming out it just wasn't keeping the pushrod up to the slave cylinder making it difficult to change gear.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ah don't know where I got that from...I have worked out your forum name very smart unfortunately mine isn't as creative.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just to throw a 'grenade' into this one for you.
I have never known (not to say it never happened!) a S3 gearbox leave the factory with a S2 type bellhousing and clutch release mechanism. Sure, I have seen owners swop the bellhousings over so they can fit a S3 box in a S2/2a without having to mess with the clutch release mechanism (the S3 one being a cheap substitute for what went before - which was well over-engineered!).
So, this looks like some sort of PO bodge to me. That clutch cover is completely incorrect for the S2a mechanism as, yes you could get a diaphragm clutch on the 2a (standard 9 1/2" on a diesel and many fit them to petrols too!) but the cover is different and has a boss in the centre like this
http://www.paddockspares.com/571228bb-clutch-pressure-plate-s2a-diesel-ap-driveline.html
. By your own admission you were having trouble with this set up and the push rod has been 'modified' to get this lot to work.
Your choice but I would be looking to get the correct S2a cover (as per the picture - yes I know it says diesel but ti fits the petrol too - but check it out!) rather than continuing with what appears to me to be a botch.
Sorry to bear the news but HTH
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