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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poor baby knappster is under the weather today. She had a lie-in which was the alarm that she wasnít well. I got her up and she was sick in our bed.

Then I went for a blood test. The lady who takes the blood used my left arm this time and I really felt this one. Back to the right arm next time.

On the way home, I walked past a smart Td5 110 station wagon. It was subtly modified, with rock sliders and a winch bumper but with standard wheels with Michelin XZL tyres and a grumpy looking collie dog guarding it inside.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just been reading a post on another forum about problems with JLRís new Ingenium engine, in particular DPF issues, turbos failing, oil diluting and other issues. Iíve no experience of this myself but apparently itís in part due to trying to meet new emissions regulations. You never had this with a Tdi! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So much for progress.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The old two and a quarter engines and the like never suffered from these issues.

I saw a very nice 110 hard top with MT tyres, roof rack and winch bumper in Stroud on the journey home tonight. Not one Iíve seen before. Iíll keep an eye out for it and see if I can speak to the owner. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I heard an ad from Highways England on Gold UK tonight. It was about checking your vehicle before a long journey. Fuel, tyres and oil were mentioned but coolant, screen wash, brake, and clutch (if applicable), levels weren't.
Typical Highways England.
The last time when emissions on the 2.5 petrol in my Series 3 were checked at an MOT, CO levels were 0.83%, 4.5% max allowed and hydrocarbons 200, 1200 max allowed. Nothing wrong with that.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And no AdBlue in sight! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And no AdBlue in sight! Smile

What's that?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The issue with Ingenium diesels is continually doing short runs. The DPF needs to be burnt clean from time to time and needs a decent run to do this. If the automatic DPF regeneration is cut short, excess diesel used in the process ends up in the engine sump. It has a sensor to detect this.

The end result is that it just shortens the service interval - NIGHTMARE!!!

By the way, apparently the Ingenium is one of the cleanest diesels on the road today.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Any diesel with a DPF needs a good blast on a dual carriageways. My neighbour used to have a diesel car and didn't realize that. He's changed to a petrol Vauxhall.
I give both of my vehicles a good blast now and again. It does them good.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My TD5 emissions on the MOT last week came out at:
CO (0.2% permitted) result 0%
HC (200ppm allowed) Result 7ppm
Lamda (0.97 - 1.03 allowed) Result 1.001
Smoke test 0 (no smoke seen)

Not bad for a clunky old diesel Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
We run a large fleet of diesel Vauxhallís at work. If a car is kept running on tickover, they tend to get blocked DPFís. An Italian tune-up tends to sort it out. I know any diesel with a DPF needs this. Perhaps a warning notice to owners of ingenium diesels advising them to give it a good drive regularly might reduce issues being reported.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alan Drover wrote:
knappster wrote:
And no AdBlue in sight! Smile

What's that?


https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/tips-and-advice/152834/what-is-adblue

Google, Alan. I had no idea either. And I've just had to google DPF (I'm a diesel ignoramus)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I give both of my vehicles a good blast now and again. It does them good.


... and good fun too! - especially overtaking more modern diesel Land Rovers Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mrs. D came back from Tesco yesterday with the 4th jar of Marmite XO. I wonder if the six month trial period will be extended.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Geoff2 wrote:
Alan Drover wrote:
I give both of my vehicles a good blast now and again. It does them good.


... and good fun too! - especially overtaking more modern diesel Land Rovers Smile

I can't do that but it will do an indicated 70 along the flat on the A303 with no problem.
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