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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It says Tube Type but I have been reassured by several different sources within the tyre industry that they are suitable to be tubeless too. They are made in 2020. It's the rim that tends to be tubeless.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sounds totally dodgy to me. XZLs are suitable either way (ie with a tube in a tube-type rim or without one in a tubeless rim) but they say tubeless on them.

Since I've been looking at this subject online I've been getting ads for tyres sneaking past my adblocker Mad - thank you very much google, I already have plenty of tyres!
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've searched and just can't find any site that says tube type tyres shouldn't/can't/mustn't/absolutely not/ be used on tubeless rims.
They have a rough interior for tyres that are tubed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Another example of google trying to sell you something you don’t need Geoff! Wink Just avoid looking at the ads after a few beers... Wink Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think there are a couple of tings to consider.

1. Tubed rims and tubeless rims have (more or less) the same bead support profile. I know there are differences, but that won't apply to the types of rim we are using.
2. Tubed rims are not air sealed, tubeless rims are.
3. Any tyre which is suitable for a tube must have a completely smooth internal surface (no exposed ribbing). Even a sticky paper label left on the inside can burst a tube. It was common practice to rub French chalk into the tyre and tube to improve slipperiness in order to prevent friction bursts.
4 The most important point, unless you are going for a concourse classic vehicle, is to avoid crossplies like the plague. The damn things are close to being dangerous on the road. I've driven on crossplies and I can confirm that, compared to radials, they are absolutely awful.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Of course Wolf rims are tubeless. The tyre pressures haven't varied since fitting so I reckon it's OK. I'd never use crossplies, I'm not a Concours fanatic. When I bought the Land Rover in 1986, it came with Avon Traction Mileage crossplies on.6.00x16 rims. Never again.
All being well it's off to Ian on Monday next for bulkhead fitting. I hope the last batch of parts arrives from Dunsfold before then, but if not, I'll use the MG to deliver them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looking forward to checking out the new bulkhead at New bury in October Alan. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Looking forward to checking out the new bulkhead at New bury in October Alan. Very Happy

.....not forgetting the heated windscreens.
See you there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alan Drover wrote:
I'd never use crossplies, I'm not a Concours fanatic. When I bought the Land Rover in 1986, it came with Avon Traction Mileage crossplies on.6.00x16 rims. Never again.


I ran my old 2.25 for the over 20 years I owned her on the Avon Ranger crossplies she came with, just replacing tyres individually as necessary, and I never had a problem with them, though they could have been better in snow. The steering was nice and light, much lighter than my V8s, though I'm not sure I'd want that at the higher speeds I have now!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The 90 was used for work. The temperature guage, a standard LR offering, didn’t move from cold until quite late into the journey, which was unusual. It did the same on the way back. I’ll have to see if the thermostat is sticking or if there’s another issue. I’m wondering if there is an earth issue otherwise. The standard gauges aren’t very good, I’ve been looking at a Durite one. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
To test the temperature gauge Rich, disconnect the wire from the sender on the engine and with the ignition switched on, earth the wire on the engine block. If the gauge then reads hot then it's OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice one Alan, I’ll take a look at the weekend. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alan Drover wrote:
To test the temperature gauge Rich, disconnect the wire from the sender on the engine and with the ignition switched on, earth the wire on the engine block. If the gauge then reads hot then it's OK.

Don't you just love the old ways, just try doing that with a modern vehicle.
Actually please don't Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
websnail wrote:
Alan Drover wrote:
To test the temperature gauge Rich, disconnect the wire from the sender on the engine and with the ignition switched on, earth the wire on the engine block. If the gauge then reads hot then it's OK.

Don't you just love the old ways, just try doing that with a modern vehicle.
Actually please don't Sad

No, you'd wreck some tiny and highly expensive piece of electronic junk.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Alan Drover wrote:
you'd wreck some tiny and highly expensive piece of electronic junk.


No doubt it would be some ECU in a black box which would render the car a write-off! Rolling Eyes
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